Talk:Israeli–Palestinian peace process
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Olmert and the 2008 proposal
[edit]there seems to be very little here, or anywhere on wikipedia, on Ehud Olmert's peace talks, particularly with reference to the famous final offer of September 2008, shortly before leaving office, and the Palestinian response to it. I think this is something pretty notable that should be included here, or potentially even have its own article. Would welcome any comment from other wikipedians on this
--Tomatoswoop (talk) 01:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
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Replace 'Qatar's initiative for peace'.
US, Qatari and Egyptian Mediation
On October 7, 2023, thousands of Hamas militants stormed into southern Israel murdering over 1200 Israelis including hundreds of youth at a music festival and families with babies at kibbutzim. They fired thousands of rockets into Israel. They then kidnapped some 240 Israelis including children and held them hostage in Gaza. Israel retaliated with heavy bombardments of the Gaza Strip. On October 9, 2023, Qatari, US and Egyptian mediators began talks with Hamas in an effort to arrange the release of 36 Palestinian women and children from Israeli prisons in exchange for Israeli hostages. Starting from November 24, some 150 Israeli hostages were released in a succession of days in return for a ceasefire and the release of female and teenage Palestinian prisoners. Qatar had been working in collaboration with the United States and Egypt.[21][22] Sandratv99 (talk) 21:00, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 01:16, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Undo Dovidroths revert
[edit]User Dovidroth reverted my addition. I suggest we undo their revert since my additions made the article more precise. For example, Oslo was specifically an interim agreement aiming for a settlement, not necessarily a Palestinian state. DMH43 (talk) 22:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- It might be worth noting that Dovidroth has been banned from the Palestine/Israel Conflict topic for 90 days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dovidroth#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction
- this is @Dovidroth's revert DMH43 (talk) 16:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Neutrality dispute
[edit]@DMH223344: Why is this section's neutrality being disputed? Jarble (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Some POV issues at a glance:
- Use of the phrase "destruction of Israel" where it's not appropriate or particularly relevant.
- "a feeling that Israel offers too little and a mistrust of its actions and motives" makes it seem like deception or perceived deception is a key issue. Also, "offers too little" is an understatement.
- "The official position of the State of Israel is that peace ought to be negotiated on the basis of giving up some control of the occupied territories in return for a stop to the conflict and violence" is stated without any mention of international law or the international consensus.
- "Hardliners believe that Israel should annex all Palestinian territory" hardliners should likely be "extremists"
- Also, the subsections are confusing as to whether they represent the perspectives of palestinian/israeli people, organizations or causes (it seems to mix all three). DMH223344 (talk) 00:03, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Wrong Security Council resolution
[edit]Just noticed in the 2nd paragraph of the lead section it refers to Resolution 388 which is an unrelated resolution relating to Rhodesia. I believe that it should instead be referring to Resolution 338 (not 388) which called for a ceasefire to the Yom Kippur War. Snkn179 (talk) 03:30, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, done. Yr Enw (talk) 05:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Out of context Rabin quote
[edit]The following quote from Rabin was recently added to the section "Israeli views on the peace process":
I always believed that most of the people want peace and are ready to take a risk for it
This quote belongs in either a hagiographical account, or in a context explaining Rabin's policies towards the peace process. Presented in a quote box, this quote is specifically decontextualized. I propose to remove this quotebox, or move the quote into the body as part of a paragraph which discusses Rabin's policies. DMH223344 (talk) 15:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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